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Works & Emergency Services
"SWM-MEP"
Public Forum
Metro Hall, Room 308
January 9, 1999
Draft
Meeting Notes/Issues List
Attendance:
Allan Gardiner
Iain Gardiner
Hon Lu
Paul Holliday
Ed Fox
David Newland
Mike Akerman
Angelo Babaris
Brennain Lloyd
Rhonda Hustler
John Jackson
Shelley Petrie
Teri Burgess
Mukaddes Koc
Chai Kalevar
Karen Buck
S. Shumuk
C. Munday
Lawson Oates
Bob Davis
Michael Pratt
Tracey Ehl Harrison
Meeting
Format
Presentations were given outlining
the project background, key contents of the draft planning document,
and the consultation and communications program. Due to the small
number of people, an informal format was followed. During and after
the presentations, a question and answer session took place where
a number of concerns were raised by industry members.
Questions/Comments/Concerns
The following
issues were raised by those at the meeting.
Process-Related
Issues
- Who did
the needs study for this process? When?
- All proponents will need to work
from the same tonnage figures.
- Are proponents going to be asked
to bid based on the assumption that the 2 million tonnes is a
constant? Is it assumed that increasing population will be offset
by increasing diversion rates and therefore that the tonnage will
remain constant?
- Are tonnages from each sector shown
in the document?
- Do disposal contracts include haulage?
- What securities will be required
for these contracts?
- What is the current at source breakdown
of waste?
- What sources of waste are being
dealt with in this process.
- The City should take on responsibility
for the impacts for longer than the term of the contract.
- The process for securing disposal
and diversion contracts should take place at the same time.
- Priority should be given to companies
who can do both diversion and disposal. If companies can do both,
would they have to submit two proposals?
- There was some concern that there
is a wholesale reliance on the marketplace in this process. There
needs to be an contingency plan, if this direction doesnt work.
Toronto should take the opportunity to utilize small scale diversion
opportunities and partnerships.
- How will performance of contractors
be monitored?
REOI/RFP
Criteria Issues
- Sites
shouldnt be disqualified at the REOI stage because of community
lobbying. Proposals should be fairly evaluated within the REOI
and RFP.
- Does the REOI stage involve the
evaluation of only business credentials?
- Financial restrictions in the REOI
for the diversion and new and emerging categories will inhibit
potential proponents from participating in the process, especially
smaller businesses.
- Are polyvinyl chlorides being considered
in the macro environmental impacts?
- How will the RFP criteria be refined?
When?
- Is there a threshold for the impacts
that will result from these contracts? For example, is there something
in the process that limits impacts of the project to the 20 year
time frame of the contract? Could this be incorporated into the
RFP criteria? There should be bonuses for bidders who can guarantee
the term of the impacts.
- Why has the willing host criteria
been dropped? There should be a willing host. This process will
take a long time and be unacceptable if there is no willing host.
- Site locations should be disclosed
at the REOI stage.
- The way community acceptability
is built into this process is problematic, as proponents may have
moved very quickly to get approvals. There should be some evaluation
of the quality of the environmental assessment and Environmental
Protection Act work that was carried out.
- Engineers doing the evaluation should
have no relationship to the past approvals secured related to
the sites.
Consultation-Related
Issues
- When will
the sites be made public? Once the sites are identified and there
is notification in community papers, do all who express an interest
become stakeholders?
- When will the next round of consultation
take place?
- What will the public feedback be
used for at RFP stage?
- Residents should be given the opportunity
to network with each other to exchange ideas and comments. A list
was started and circulated to all those who were interested in
participating.
- Has the Planning Document been before
Council yet? What feedback have they given?
Diversion-Related
Issues
- What if
disposal proponents do not account for increasing diversion rates?
- Define Diversion. Does it include
pyrolysis?
- Are there interim benchmark targets
that are to be met between now and the 50%, 2006 goal?
- Does the City provide diversion
opportunities for the IC&I sectors?
- How is the City educating the public
about waste diversion?
- Solutions for diversion problems
in urban and suburban areas exist. The key is to undertake small
scale projects.
- How is Toronto setting its diversion
targets? Priority should be given to diversion over disposal (i.e.
there should be some form of comparison).
- The planning document infers that
diversion proposals may be rejected because certain tonnages are
committed to disposal. If tonnages are guaranteed to disposal
contractors, diversion is not being encouraged.
- Are tonnages being guaranteed to
diversion companies?
- The "friction points"
between diversion and disposal should be identified.
- A diversion system that is compatible
with high density living needs to be adopted.
- There should be bans on certain
items and the removal of compostables from disposal.
- Toronto has learned the wrong message
from past site searches. The answer is not to contract with the
private sector. The City should spend money on material recovery
facilities.
- Staff needs to make strong recommendations
to secure diversion options. The recommendations from the RIS
study need to be implemented.
New
and Emerging Technologies-Related Issues
- A portion
(1%, for example) should be put into research and development.
Partnership-Related
Issues
- There
are mixed messages regarding partnerships.
- How will partnerships be structured
within the diversion stream of this process?
- Explain the partnerships that are
envisioned in this process.
Other
Questions/Comments
- When does
the BFI contract end?
- Is the exiting City transfer station
network going to be used?
- Does North America include Mexico?
Mexico should not be excluded. Rather than limiting the search
to Canada and the U.S., a radius in kilometers should be used
to scope the search.
- There should be some discussion
of the long term liability associated with exporting waste to
the United States.
- A number of City Works are currently
out of compliance with Ministry of Environment regulations. How
can it be guaranteed that the same wont happen with these new
contracts? How can the risk be minimized?
- Who will manage a perpetual care
fund?
- Has there been any discussion of
mining the Keele Valley site to gain additional capacity.
- Toxic waste needs to be considered
within this process (4th R).

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