Business Meeting No. 16

Meeting Date: July 31, 2018
Time: 9:30 a.m.
Email: tlab@toronto.ca
Location: 40 Orchard View Blvd., Toronto, Ontario, M4B 1R9, Suite 253
Room: TLAB Hearing Room One & Two
Chair: Ian Lord

Contact: Hsing Yi Chao
Phone: 416-392-4697

Reading of the Traditional Land Acknowledgement

Declaration of Interest under the Municipal Conflict of Interest Act

None declared

Confirmation of Minutes

  1. Motion to adopt Minutes from July 4, 2018: Morning Session moved by Panel Member S. Makuch, seconded by Panel Member D. Lombardi (Carried).
  2. Motion to adopt Minutes from July 4, 2018: Afternoon Session moved by Panel Member S. Makuch, seconded by Panel Member L. McPherson (Carried).

TLAB 16.1: INFORMATION, RECEIVED

Decision Advice and Other Information

Chair’s Update

Correspondence received from City Clerks will be dealt with in the next meeting. There is an Information Report from the Planning and Growth Committee regarding decisions on already built/illegal construction. Committee of Adjustment will be reviewing COA and TLAB decisions. Normal approach is to ignore the status of the building, and to consider it through the four tests as if it was not already built.

Member Yao raised a related matter, which is to ask how members may search prior decisions to see what others have decided. Secretary of the TLAB Hsing Yi Chao has compiled a combined document of all decisions that she updates and can share with members and public on request. A conversation ensued as to whether and how to inform the public that this document is available, with the members agreeing that such a document should be made available. Secretary Chao will investigate and report on what is possible.

Council has approved the added position of a Vice Chair for TLAB, with compensation set at $15,000 per annum. By mid-August, he hopes to have a document circulated for consideration at September meeting. September will also be revisions to Rules and procedural by-law. A subsequent October meeting will be for public deputations.  Goal to have the Rules, by-law, and Vice-Chair role enacted by early next year.

Member Yao wished to discuss the impact of Vice Chair position. Russ Brownell representing Court Services, Planning and Liaison, clarified that Council has approved the role, now it is up to staff to change wording of by-laws and procedures to support the change. Member McPherson asked whether the increase in membership from seven to 10 happens at the same time. It is up to public appointments office to implement the additional membership change. Mr. Brownell will return in September with an update on the change.

Member Yao disagree with increasing the panel to 10 members, as it would not lead to faster decisions and would lead to fewer hearings per member. Chair Lord clarified that both the recommendation to add a Vice Chair and to increase the membership to 10 members were recommendations from the Chair’s Annual Report, which was circulated to all members for comment before it was issued. The justification for new members was the decrease in workload and to maintain the pay and lifestyle of members as a part-time role, and not the “full time job” as it is now. Member Makuch agreed he could see Council’s perspective that they don’t wish for part-time appointees to feel overworked.

Member McPherson pointed out that the panel was not up to its full capacity until recently due to member resignations and therefore the case load was divided among fewer members. She suggested that perhaps there could be a back-up person who would fill in when members were absent. Member Lombardi posited that the City should be thrilled to have their membership, as he was told informally by a member of public appointments that the quality of the candidates applying was not very good. If they cannot receive an increase in remuneration, then they should at least get little things. He gave examples of having parking covered, or of having coffee made when they come in rather than needing to purchase.

Update from Administrative Staff

Hsing Yi Chao, Secretary of the Toronto Local Appeal Body, presented an administrative update on the status of TLAB hearings. To Date we have 160 hearings scheduled or to be scheduled, representing 246 files since January 1, 2018. Since May 3, number is 377 and 569 respectively. These numbers are different because many hearings have multiple files, such as for a consent plus minor variance files.

The average number of hearings per month is in the mid-twenties. On average, it takes the Committee of Adjustment 14 days to complete files and send them to TLAB. It takes an average of five days to issue a Notice of Hearing, and the average time between the issuance of the Notice of Hearing to the hearing date is 112 days. From the hearing to the decision is an average of 16 days, with an average total time to dispense of the matter is 169. Staff try to assign hearings equally between members, however with vacations and other factors even distribution is not possible.

The Notice of Hearing – Form 2 has been updated to include revised wording regarding the filing of late documents. The revisions were discussed by the members, but a decision on the wording will be deferred until revisions of the Rules of Practice and Procedure.

Summary

Court Services administrative staff to provide an update to the Toronto Local Appeal Body on:

  • Number of TLAB Appeals received to date
  • Number of TLAB Hearings scheduled to date
  • Average number of days to dispense of matter

Background Information

July 31, 2018 – Administrative Update

Motions

  1. Motion to add Monday, October 29, 2018 as a Public Meeting date moved by Panel Member L. McPherson, seconded by Panel Member S. Makuch (Carried).
  2. Motion to accept Administrative Update provided by Hsing Yi Chao, Supervisor, Court Services, moved by Panel Member T. Yao, seconded by Panel Member S. Makuch (Carried).

Meeting Sessions

Session Date Session Type Start Time End Time Public or Closed Session
July 31, 2018 Morning 9:33 a.m. 10:56 a.m. Public
July 31, 2018 Recess 10:56 a.m. 11:11 a.m.
July 31, 2018 Morning 11:11 a.m. 11:12 a.m. Public
July 31, 2018 Morning 11:12 a.m. 12:30 p.m. Closed
July 31, 2018 Recess 12:30 p.m. 1:15 p.m.
July 31, 2018 Afternoon 1:15 p.m. 4:13 p.m. Closed
July 31, 2018 Afternoon 4:13 p.m. 4:15 p.m. Public

Attendance

Members were present for some or all of the time period indicated.

Date and Time
Quorum Panel Members
July 31, 2018

9:33 to 10:56 a.m.

(Public Session)

Present Present: Ian Lord (Chair), Gillian Burton, Stanley Makuch, Laurie McPherson,Ted Yao, Dino Lombardi

Absent: Sabnavis Gopikrishna

July 31, 2018

11:11 to 11:12 a.m.

(Public Session)

Present Present: Ian Lord (Chair), Gillian Burton, Stanley Makuch, Laurie McPherson,Ted Yao, Dino Lombardi

Absent: Sabnavis Gopikrishna

July 31, 2018

11:12 a.m. to 12:30 p.m.

(Closed Session)

Present Present: Ian Lord (Chair), Gillian Burton, Stanley Makuch, Laurie McPherson,Ted Yao, Dino Lombardi

Absent: Sabnavis Gopikrishna

July 31, 2018

1:15 to 4:13 p.m.

(Closed Session)

 Present Present: Ian Lord (Chair), Gillian Burton, Stanley Makuch, Laurie McPherson,Ted Yao, Dino Lombardi

Absent: Sabnavis Gopikrishna

July 31, 2018

4:13 to 4:15 p.m.

(Public Session)

Present Present: Ian Lord (Chair), Gillian Burton, Stanley Makuch, Laurie McPherson,Ted Yao, Dino Lombardi

Absent: Sabnavis Gopikrishna

  • Russ Brownell: Policy Planning and Project Advisor, Court Services
  • Hsing Yi Chao: Secretary / Supervisor, Toronto Local Appeal Body, Court Services
  • Angela Bepple: Support Assistant A, Toronto Local Appeal Body, Court Services
  • Joshua Pesce: Support Assistant B, Toronto Local Appeal Body, Court Services
Date modified: October 5, 2026